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Enhancing Anime with a beautiful soundtrack
Topic by: harvey71177
Posted: August 22, 2004 - 4:44 PM PDT
Last Reply: September 6, 2004 - 9:15 PM PDT

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author topic: Enhancing Anime with a beautiful soundtrack
harvey71177
post #1  on August 22, 2004 - 4:44 PM PDT  
Recently I rented Twelve Kingdoms and noticed it had a very nice musical score to go along with the anime. I think anything you watch becomes more captivating with a great soundtrack, and alot of animes have excellent soundtracks. I wanted to find out some of your favorite anime OSTs, or just animes where the music really made the anime just that much better.
Some of my favorites include:
Ah! My Goddess
.hack//sign
and of course The Vision of Escaflowne

What are yours?
jross3
post #2  on August 22, 2004 - 5:43 PM PDT  
I like a lot of the soundtracks by Yoko Kanno (like Cowboy Bebop, Macross Plus, and (more recently) Wolf's Rain). She uses lots of different languages (and even makes them up sometimes) and has a very broad range of style. What language is that in the opening of GitS: SAC? I don't recognize it at all.
Some of my other faves are:
FLCL - music by The Pillows
Berserk - dunno who does the score (can't find the soundtrack to buy it!!), but I think The Pillows did the opening theme for this one, too (called "Tell me" or something, I forget exactly what) - and "Forces" is just so...
Hellsing - a generally good soundtrack, and it fits very well into the anime.
Fruits Basket - just watched vol. 1; I actually stopped for a moment to reflect on how good the soundtrack was while watching it. Furthermore, translated and re-done theme songs are never good (if I must, I'll refer you to Yu Yu Hakusho and Rurouni Kenshin) - but in this case, the English versions of the opening and ending songs were just about half-decent, and therefore the best I've heard in a long, long time. ('course, the English versions of the Wolfs Rain opening and ending songs are arguably better, but they seem to be the original versions (that crazy Yoko Kanno!) so they don't qualify for this category!)
harvey71177
post #3  on August 22, 2004 - 8:19 PM PDT  
> On August 22, 2004 - 5:43 PM PDT jross3 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I like a lot of the soundtracks by Yoko Kanno (like Cowboy Bebop, Macross Plus, and (more recently) Wolf's Rain). She uses lots of different languages (and even makes them up sometimes) and has a very broad range of style. What language is that in the opening of GitS: SAC? I don't recognize it at all.
> Some of my other faves are:
> FLCL - music by The Pillows
> Berserk - dunno who does the score (can't find the soundtrack to buy it!!), but I think The Pillows did the opening theme for this one, too (called "Tell me" or something, I forget exactly what) - and "Forces" is just so...
> Hellsing - a generally good soundtrack, and it fits very well into the anime.
> Fruits Basket - just watched vol. 1; I actually stopped for a moment to reflect on how good the soundtrack was while watching it. Furthermore, translated and re-done theme songs are never good (if I must, I'll refer you to Yu Yu Hakusho and Rurouni Kenshin) - but in this case, the English versions of the opening and ending songs were just about half-decent, and therefore the best I've heard in a long, long time. ('course, the English versions of the Wolfs Rain opening and ending songs are arguably better, but they seem to be the original versions (that crazy Yoko Kanno!) so they don't qualify for this category!)
> ---------------------------------

I couldn't agree more that generally english versions of openings and endings are sorry to say the least. I'll have to check out Fruits Basket though. Thanks for the feedback.
jross3
post #4  on August 22, 2004 - 8:41 PM PDT  
This thread should also be helpful, although I think it refers more to CD soundtracks than to scores and such in the animes themselves.
Yowanda
post #5  on August 23, 2004 - 12:41 PM PDT  
I'm actually in the middle of Fruits Basket right now, and I have noticed the theme song keeps getting stuck in my head.

I also loved the music from Hellsing and Cowboy Bebop. Noir had some kinda cool music, but it got a bit repetative by the end of the series.
AFleming
post #6  on August 23, 2004 - 5:37 PM PDT  
> On August 22, 2004 - 5:43 PM PDT jross3 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Berserk - dunno who does the score (can't find the soundtrack to buy it!!), but I think The Pillows did the opening theme for this one, too (called "Tell me" or something, I forget exactly what) - and "Forces" is just so...
> ---------------------------------

Actually, it's "Tell Me Why" by the band Penpals. It's on this album. The whole album is great, IMO, as is the other four of their albums I own so far.
jross3
post #7  on August 23, 2004 - 5:46 PM PDT  
> On August 23, 2004 - 5:37 PM PDT AFleming wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On August 22, 2004 - 5:43 PM PDT jross3 wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > Berserk - dunno who does the score (can't find the soundtrack to buy it!!), but I think The Pillows did the opening theme for this one, too (called "Tell me" or something, I forget exactly what) - and "Forces" is just so...
> > ---------------------------------
>
> Actually, it's "Tell Me Why" by the band Penpals. It's on this album. The whole album is great, IMO, as is the other four of their albums I own so far.
> ---------------------------------

Ahh, thanks for the correction. At least it started with a P; I do have such trouble reading credits sometimes... I'm gonna look at that album, though.
Cosplayer
post #8  on August 23, 2004 - 5:50 PM PDT  
I was watching perfect blue, and every time someone got murdered, they'd play this adorable bouncy tune, and I'd start dancing along!

Also, I was watching Cowmoy bebop, and it was apaticularly dramatic eppisode, and they started playing the call me song which I had heard on the net, and that I had heard it before made it 10 times as powerful!!
AFleming
post #9  on August 23, 2004 - 7:25 PM PDT  
> On August 23, 2004 - 5:46 PM PDT jross3 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Ahh, thanks for the correction. At least it started with a P; I do have such trouble reading credits sometimes... I'm gonna look at that album, though.
> ---------------------------------

Yeah, I thought it was the Pillows at first too. I ordered the albums off of the Japanese amazon.com site. It was a lot cheaper than the US imports, which are hard to find at any rate. Their first 4 albums are great. Most of them are in Engrish, except Past Last Summer, which is mostly in Japanese. The ED song on Berserk is only on a single, which I don't have.
sailortitan2
post #10  on August 24, 2004 - 9:12 AM PDT  
> On August 22, 2004 - 4:44 PM PDT harvey71177 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Recently I rented Twelve Kingdoms and noticed it had a very nice musical score to go along with the anime. I think anything you watch becomes more captivating with a great soundtrack, and alot of animes have excellent soundtracks. I wanted to find out some of your favorite anime OSTs, or just animes where the music really made the anime just that much better.
> Some of my favorites include:
> Ah! My Goddess
> .hack//sign
> and of course The Vision of Escaflowne
>
> What are yours?
> ---------------------------------

By the way, I picked up two of the Twelve Kingdoms soundtracks, and I *really* recconmend them.

That said...

I too like the music for Vision of Escaflowne. I also like Noir, although I was never interseted in the show. I just bought the soundtrack ^^v Vampire Princess Miyu has some good music in it, too, and I liked Princess Nine's sountrack, too, although I think a lot of what I liked was actually older, classical music ^^;;

I'm surprised people like Fruit's Basket's score. I thought that music was really, really boring...in fact, I remember thinking at the time "wow, for how high-budget this show is, it has *terrible* music..."

.

-Kathy


Catullus
post #11  on August 24, 2004 - 11:56 AM PDT  
> On August 24, 2004 - 9:12 AM PDT sailortitan2 wrote:
> --------------------------------
>
> I'm surprised people like Fruit's Basket's score. I thought that music was really, really boring...in fact, I remember thinking at the time "wow, for how high-budget this show is, it has *terrible* music..."
>
> .
>
> -Kathy
> ---------------------------------

Thats okay for someone to have good taste someone else must have equally bad taste

.

-Rich
TCantrell
post #12  on August 24, 2004 - 4:10 PM PDT  
The soundtracks in Noir .Hack and Witch Hunter Robin make all of them far more enjoyable than they should be :)

Twelve Kingdoms has a good soundtrack as well, although that one doesn't need it quite so much.
Catullus
post #13  on August 24, 2004 - 7:02 PM PDT  
> On August 24, 2004 - 4:10 PM PDT TCantrell wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> The soundtracks in Noir .Hack and Witch Hunter Robin make all of them far more enjoyable than they should be :)
>
> Twelve Kingdoms has a good soundtrack as well, although that one doesn't need it quite so much.
> ---------------------------------

especially witch hunter robin, I thought it was okay but Robins theme that they played over and over again is soooo great that it kept me going through the whole series, that and the opening song. I did enjoy WHR but it was mostly for the animation style and the music.

Hack Sign had great music however even if it had the best music in the whole world of all time the show still would have been boring.... I can't believe I managed to force myself to watch all 26 eps of that crap.

Noir was okay, great music but another yawn fest. Its about as fun as playing a shootem up game with god mode or an aimbot... why even bother? I mean sure if you can shoot out the O in a coke can from a 1000 yards away with a handgun while running, you can kill everyone in existence too...
Can't say enough about how stupid it all seemed when I was done watching.
Catullus
post #14  on August 24, 2004 - 7:22 PM PDT  
Songs from Hack Sign I really like are

(the Opening song) Obsession
Key of the Twilight
Aura

and off ost 2
In the land of the twilight under the moon
harvey71177
post #15  on August 24, 2004 - 8:24 PM PDT  
I think Kenshin has some great music moments too. I really like Kaoru's love theme, which is the sad piano music that plays up during any emotional moment of the series.
sinisterguffaw
post #16  on August 25, 2004 - 12:47 PM PDT  
> Hack Sign had great music however even if it had the best music in the whole world of all time the show still would have been boring.... I can't believe I managed to force myself to watch all 26 eps of that crap.
>

couldn't agree more. I may have to hunt down a copy of the soundtrack. I would also like to give another vote to Cowboy Bebop.
KPman1
post #17  on September 4, 2004 - 6:30 PM PDT  
Cowboy Bebop (especially cool when they had the heavy metal loving outlaw.)
Serial Experiment Lain (the English version)
Outlaw Star (the end song)
Berserk (I swore the title and ending song were in Japanese until I started really listening to them.)
Last Exile
Vision of Escaflowne (I kind of lost interest in the series, after it being one of my favorites for a long time, but I still like the music)

The very worst soundtrack has to be for Niea_7. It is god awful.

Sidetrack question: How often are the Japanese and English soundtracks different? I noticed they were different on Reign the Conqueror and I prefer the English one (although I often like Japanese anime songs.)
KPman1
post #18  on September 4, 2004 - 6:34 PM PDT  
oops, I meant the soundtrack for the animes themselves not the seperate soundtracks on CD.
jross3
post #19  on September 4, 2004 - 9:01 PM PDT  
> On September 4, 2004 - 6:30 PM PDT KPman1 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Sidetrack question: How often are the Japanese and English soundtracks different? I noticed they were different on Reign the Conqueror and I prefer the English one (although I often like Japanese anime songs.)
> ---------------------------------

It doesn't happen too often, and it's not really something to look forward too most of the time. For a variety of reasons (low budgets, low respect, poor taste, lousy luck, etc.) translated theme songs have a way of turning out pretty bad. I haven't heard either version of Reign's theme, but I guess it's a exception if you liked it, but eleven times out of ten, you don't find a good English version of a song that was originally in Japanese.
A lot of the Wolfs Rain soundtrack was written in English, and a few other animes have a song or two in Engrish, and quite a few Japanese-language songs use a few lines of English (because English is just the coolest, isn't it?), but that's about it.
As for translating songs, it usually seems to depend on the publisher. Most of the companies that take half-decent Japanese shows and strip them down for American kid's show blocks will translate the songs - or replace them entirely, with completely different songs (Dragon Ball Z, probably Yu Gi Oh and Pokemon, too - that sort of thing). Most of Funimation's DVD releases that I've seen have both English and Japanese theme songs, and Cartoon Network used to show Rurouni Kenshin (Anime Works) with a (horrible! Terrible!) English-version opening, although I don't really remember it being on the DVD, since I watched it subbed. (incidentally, when it was on their afternoon block, I think they used the Japanese version ending song and no opening sequence, so go figure...)

As far as background music goes, I'm not totally sure. I'm sure that for all those shows that got super-transformed for their TV debut in America the scores got changed quite a bit, but I really can't say for sure. Usually, whenever I get the chance to check, the English and Japanese audios have the same sound effects, so one might presume that the same goes for the scores, but it would take someone with a lot of free time and a fairly wide selection of dvds to do a real investigation and see just how often those things do change.
KPman1
post #20  on September 5, 2004 - 5:26 AM PDT  
The lyrics for the Reign opening song are not the same in English and in Japanese. I've only watched certain anime dubbed and it got me wondering, whether there's a difference. For example, the opening song to Lain is one of my favorites, but it's in English. Do they use the same opening song for it in Japan?
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