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Let the Right One In
Topic by: DLeonard
Posted: November 13, 2008 - 2:16 PM PST
Last Reply: April 19, 2009 - 11:02 PM PDT

author topic: Let the Right One In
DLeonard
post #1  on November 13, 2008 - 2:16 PM PST  
Has anyone caught the new Swedish vampire film "Let the Right One In"? It's very good. Not intense horror, though there are moments, but also not the romanticized vampires of late. The movie unfolds slowly (it is Swedish) but once it got to the end I was deeply hooked.

An older George Romero movie comes to mind; "Martin".
Cinenaut
post #2  on November 14, 2008 - 9:40 AM PST  
I'm looking forward to seeing it.

weezy
post #3  on November 14, 2008 - 10:39 AM PST  
I saw it! Posted a response in the general thread "A Film in Every Theater - FALL 2008 Movies (General - No Spoilers)". I agree, the horror was not intense but there were some great moments of tension and drama.

Bloody Disgusting revealed Cloverfield director Matt Reeves will be directing the remake. This article has some interesting quotes from Swedish Director Thomas Alfredson.

Why so soon?! More people need to see this wonderful film before diving into an American version.


*** SPOILERS****

I'm not sure how I feel about the plot line of the older woman getting bitten. First, the cats get all crazy on her, and then she SETS HERSELF ON FIRE in the hospital. Those parts made me unintentionally laugh out loud.

I particularly enjoyed the ending of the movie. It brought the film to a ridiculous, hilarious close. And I love that the ending leaves the future of the two kids completely open.
accuity
post #4  on November 15, 2008 - 11:49 PM PST  
I had a chance to see it as well. Wonderfully atmospheric film with a slow but gripping build. The character moments were wonderfully acted by the two leads. It really could have been a "My Girl"-type coming of age and still worked due to the strong characterization and performances. However, when it needed to get nasty/bloody, the film did not shy away which was really appreciated.

Highly recommended!!!

-------------------SPOILERS--------------------------------

2 items:

First: I hate to sound a little pervy, but was there a significance to the scar around Eli's swimsuit area? I was left puzzled by the quick flash and no apparent explanation to its significance other than Oskar peeking in? If someone else who saw the film, is this part of some vampire lore , please comment.

Second: For the people who have seen the film, do you think Eli's MO is to find a "friend", form a bond, and live with them until they reach a certain age and usefulness?
Eli's "father" felt like a 50yrs old Oskar-to be. Is this what is in store for Oskar? To live out his life as her caretaker until he too will reach his end?
If so, why was Eli's "father" such an amateur at the 2 attempts in trying to acquire blood, especially if he had (perhaps) done this before for her? Once in a brightly lit park, and another in a gym where people were still around.

--------------------End Spoilers---------------------------
weezy
post #5  on November 23, 2008 - 4:17 PM PST  
************** SPOILERS *******************

> Second: For the people who have seen the film, do you think Eli's MO is to find a "friend", form a bond, and live with them until they reach a certain age and usefulness?
> Eli's "father" felt like a 50yrs old Oskar-to be. Is this what is in store for Oskar? To live out his life as her caretaker until he too will reach his end?

I think Eli doesn't need anyone to do what the father figure did for her, and I don't believe she expects Oskar to do the same sort of thing, although, the fact that he did kill to protect her at such an early age is an indication of his desire to protect and be with her for a long time to come. But I don't think Eli would let him endanger his own life to protect hers at such a young age. In the beginning, when she meets Oskar, she makes it clear to him that they can't be friends. It's not until after she becomes fond of him that she allows them to be close. So I think whether or not that will be Oskar's lot in life (to get blood for her) is up to interpretation, and that's one of the great questions the film raises - how far will you go to protect someone you love?

> If so, why was Eli's "father" such an amateur at the 2 attempts in trying to acquire blood, especially if he had (perhaps) done this before for her? Once in a brightly lit park, and another in a gym where people were still around.
>
It seemed to me like he had just 2 bad runs at it. Perhaps because of his old age he was more careless than he used to be, because the methodical way in which he packed his backpack and kept his knife sharp indicated to me that he had done that successfully many times before.

MHeise
post #6  on November 23, 2008 - 10:20 PM PST  
> On November 23, 2008 - 4:17 PM PST weezy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> ************** SPOILERS *******************
>
> > Second: For the people who have seen the film, do you think Eli's MO is to find a "friend", form a bond, and live with them until they reach a certain age and usefulness?
> > Eli's "father" felt like a 50yrs old Oskar-to be. Is this what is in store for Oskar? To live out his life as her caretaker until he too will reach his end?
>
> I think Eli doesn't need anyone to do what the father figure did for her, and I don't believe she expects Oskar to do the same sort of thing, although, the fact that he did kill to protect her at such an early age is an indication of his desire to protect and be with her for a long time to come. But I don't think Eli would let him endanger his own life to protect hers at such a young age. In the beginning, when she meets Oskar, she makes it clear to him that they can't be friends. It's not until after she becomes fond of him that she allows them to be close. So I think whether or not that will be Oskar's lot in life (to get blood for her) is up to interpretation, and that's one of the great questions the film raises - how far will you go to protect someone you love?
>
> > If so, why was Eli's "father" such an amateur at the 2 attempts in trying to acquire blood, especially if he had (perhaps) done this before for her? Once in a brightly lit park, and another in a gym where people were still around.
> >
> It seemed to me like he had just 2 bad runs at it. Perhaps because of his old age he was more careless than he used to be, because the methodical way in which he packed his backpack and kept his knife sharp indicated to me that he had done that successfully many times before.
>
>
> ---------------------------------

it was apparent that the old mans usefulness had to come to a end. she needed another caretaker and a companion. she chose oskar or whatever his name was. but at the same time he knew what she was and he accepted it. the vampire came seeking and he invited it therefore she took his soul in. He was the right one ya?
underdog
post #7  on November 24, 2008 - 9:33 AM PST  
I think her caretaker had some kind of bond with her, whether it was some sort of vampire agreement or something else part of that world, it was left unexplained but implied. She obviously didn't care a whole lot about him, but he did care a bit about her, or at least seemed to be fulfilling an obligation or agreement.

By the way, I thought this movie was beautifully done. One of the best vampire films I've seen in a long time. I haven't seen Twilight, but it makes me sad that billions of people will see that and miss this one. It doesn't shy away from the more gruesome aspects of vampirism but is more of a sad and bittersweet tale than anything. How about that scene in the swimming pool, eh? I don't think I'll soon forget it.

Wasn't the film set in the 70s? What do you think the significance of that was?
shiftless
post #8  on April 19, 2009 - 2:19 AM PDT  
So I just watched this tonight. I was tempted to watch it with the English dub track, because I sometimes really want to pay more attention to the imagery and composition and beauty of the film itself. But we all know how bad dub tracks are so I went to see opinions online. That's when I found this about how bad the subtitles were for the DVD release.

Apparently the theatrical release had a more accurate and nuanced translation for its titles. Magnolia is going to re-do the subtitles so that they match the theatrical release, but not until the current print runs out. Greencine (and everybody else in the US so far I think) has the "bad" subtitles version. After seeing the side-by-side comparisons, I would recommend getting the new version when it comes out or an import version if you can, which I think has the theatrical version titles.

****SPOILER BELOW****

In the extras featurette, the director says that one could view the ending as either a happy one or a tragic one, but that he thought it was a happy ending. I really just can't see it as a happy ending. What is happy about it? Luring a child away from his family at 12 to be the protector of a blood-thirsty vampire eunuch? I suppose there's something in the original novel I'm missing?
underdog
post #9  on April 19, 2009 - 5:12 PM PDT  
> On April 19, 2009 - 2:19 AM PDT shiftless wrote:
> ---------------------------------

>
> Apparently the theatrical release had a more accurate and nuanced translation for its titles. Magnolia is going to re-do the subtitles so that they match the theatrical release, but not until the current print runs out. Greencine (and everybody else in the US so far I think) has the "bad" subtitles version. After seeing the side-by-side comparisons, I would recommend getting the new version when it comes out or an import version if you can, which I think has the theatrical version titles.

Yeah, we've definitely been keeping an eye out on this subtitles issue. It bums me out because as you know I picked this as my favorite film of '08. I haven't yet watched the DVD so I can't comment but I hope they aren't so bad that they ruin the experience of the film. We'll look for a new, improved version when/if it comes out, though.

>
> ****SPOILER BELOW****
>
> In the extras featurette, the director says that one could view the ending as either a happy one or a tragic one, but that he thought it was a happy ending. I really just can't see it as a happy ending. What is happy about it? Luring a child away from his family at 12 to be the protector of a blood-thirsty vampire eunuch? I suppose there's something in the original novel I'm missing?
> ---------------------------------


I think the ending is open for some interpretation, and I haven't read the novel either (though I want to, and assume it sheds a bit more light on this), but it seems at the least bittersweet. In the sweet side, these two lonely creatures seem like soul mates and have formed a special, loyal bond. No one seems to understand either of them in the world they were just in so the fact that they're escaping it could be seen as a positive. But yeah, it's hard not to think that the poor kid will eventually end up in as sad a fate as her previous protector. While she doesn't age, he will get older and eventually they could be in the same spot. But we don't know that for sure.

I felt happy at the moment the ending unfolded, but thinking more on it later it did feel at least bittersweet if not downright sad in the sense of their future. But at least for a brief period of time they would be happy...
shiftless
post #10  on April 19, 2009 - 11:02 PM PDT  
I think the problem for me is that they did not do enough to make the boy seems like enough of an outcast to go to the extreme that would be necessary to become the vampire's protector. He collected news clippings of murders and atrocities, and they suggested he wanted revenge on his tormentors, but no more than any other picked-on kid might feel. His parents neglected him to some extent, but nothing terribly abusive. He didn't torture animals or do anything else that would suggest a potential "killer". So I guess the film didn't impress on me enough that the two were somehow a pair by nature to justify the ending being interpreted as happy or sweet.

All I thought about was his inevitable and horrible future and how that, as a 12 year old, he didn't, and couldn't, really realize what he had decided upon. And how would 2 seeming 12 year olds make in the world anyway? That was the most horrific aspect of the movie for me, their future.

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