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Summer Blockbusters 2008
Topic by: hamano
Posted: May 9, 2008 - 4:50 AM PDT
Last Reply: August 18, 2008 - 3:22 PM PDT

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author topic: Summer Blockbusters 2008
hamano
post #1  on May 9, 2008 - 4:50 AM PDT  
I guess Speed Racer kicks off the summer blockbuster season. It's been a while since I've been so underwhelmed by a summer full of big budget films with big name directors... It's like, Spielberg? Ho hum.

NPR Review for Speed Racer.

Some interesting NPR background on the original Speed Racer. Brings a nostalgic tear to my eyes... I watched both the original Japanese version during its first run in Japan, then again in English after we moved to NJ....

Well, at least Kenneth Turan is excited about this summer.

HOW ABOUT YOU?

hamano
post #2  on May 9, 2008 - 5:00 AM PDT  
This review makes Speed Racer sound interesting....

Glenn Kenny of Premiere said the storyline was one of the most "blatantly anti-capitalist" and "most genuinely confounding" of recent years. Depending upon the viewpoint, he said, it was either "the most headache-inducing" children's film of all, or the most expensive avante-garde film ever made. He cited the film's time-shifting narrative and multiple storylines in the early stages as evidence of its "radicalization of film language" and said it was "likely to inspire even more heavy thinking on the part of cultural theorists than The Matrix did" because of its willingness to alter its own internal logic to satisfy the Wachowskis' whims. While the results of this are visually impressive, Kenny said, this leads to "heretofore undreamed of levels of narrative incoherence, but hey, not every experiment succeeds." Kenny praised the film's look, saying the "cheez-whizziness" that others had criticised was "precisely the point". He also said the supporting characters in the race scenes were "brought to life by the Wachowskis with a cheeky relish."

Read the full review here. I'm not sure if this says more about the movie or about the desperation of professional film critics to make a difference in the much blogged field of reviewing movies...
Cinenaut
post #3  on May 9, 2008 - 8:49 AM PDT  
Most reviews seem to indicate that Speed Racer is really, really bad. Of course, at least on the level of shiny candy-like computer generated imagery, it's at least a change from all those movies with gloomy dark computer-generated imagery.

The summer blockbuster line-up this year seems kind of sad, but at least it's not a bunch of mediocre third-in-a-trilogy movies like last summer.

I'm curious to see Indiana Jones 4, of course. I'm happy that Karen Allen is in it, I hope they give her a good meaty role.

I'm also looking forward to the Batman movie. I saw a sequence from it at an IMAX theater before a screening of I Am Legend and it seemed quite good.

But The Incredible Hulk? Narnia II? Tropic Thunder? The Happening? Startship Dave? The Love Guru? I don't know.




Cinenaut
post #4  on May 9, 2008 - 9:01 AM PDT  
Furthermore, I have a feeling that Get Smart is really going to suck.

I'm curious about Hancock, but chances are it will suck, too.

Wall-E has the potential to be totally wonderful. I hope it is!

Hellboy II might be enjoyable and I'll go see the X-File movie, but my expectations will be fairly low, since it seems like the shark was jumped in the last century on that one.

What do all the Day Watch/Night Watch fans think of Wanted, by the way? (warning, noisy flash heavy official site). IMDB entry is here.


SirenTiger
post #5  on May 9, 2008 - 10:17 AM PDT  
> On May 9, 2008 - 5:00 AM PDT hamano wrote:
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> This review makes Speed Racer sound interesting....
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> ... Kenny said, this leads to "heretofore undreamed of levels of narrative incoherence, but hey, not every experiment succeeds."...

Yes, that's what movies need; more narrative incoherence.

>.. Kenny praised the film's look, saying the "cheez-whizziness" that others had criticised was "precisely the point".

An interesting defence. We ought to try it in the real world. Imagine claiming Enron's collapse and the immoral evaporation of employees and investors life savings so the rich CEO's could get slightly richer was "precisely the point". Oh, the meant to be greedy, selfish, illegal, and immoral! I guess if they meant it then it it has to be good.

As for Narnia II. Prince Caspian is too old. Who the hell thinks the epic battles are the point of the Narnia chronicles? What's the deal with the number 1300 ("it's been 1300 years") and the line "You'll find Narnia is a more savage place than you remember"? Narnia under Miraz was down-right tame. That was the point. It was mundane, wonderless, fully human, and burdened with unhappy and thouroughly civilized oppression.

Gad, it looks awful. Be interesting how they'll handle the next one; Voyage of the Dawn Treader everyone[1]'s least favorite and the least "action-filled" volume of them all.

[1]Honestly. There's much difference of opinion on which Narnia volumes are peoples favorites, but every single person I've ever asked believes VotDT to be their least favorite.
underdog
post #6  on May 9, 2008 - 2:30 PM PDT  
> On May 9, 2008 - 10:17 AM PDT SirenTiger wrote:
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> [1]Honestly. There's much difference of opinion on which Narnia volumes are peoples favorites, but every single person I've ever asked believes VotDT to be their least favorite.
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That reminds me. I am not hopeful about the next Harry Potter movie simply because that book was the one with the least amount of action, and lots of flashbacks that explain things and so on. Whereas the final book was so full of action and important events they felt they needed to split it off into two movies. Why not just skip the next to last book completely then? Well, greed, mostly.

I'm not excited about the next Narnia movies at all, even though the first one was okay.

But I am definitely looking forward to the next Indy Jones -- hopefully it won't completely blow in a Star Wars prequels kind of way.

underdog
post #7  on May 9, 2008 - 2:32 PM PDT  
> On May 9, 2008 - 9:01 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
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> What do all the Day Watch/Night Watch fans think of Wanted, by the way? (warning, noisy flash heavy official site). IMDB entry is here.
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Wanted looks like fun and completely ludicrous. Good cast. Smells like a hit, good or bad.
troublemaker
post #8  on May 9, 2008 - 2:40 PM PDT  
I'm pretty excited about the new Indy flick, but I'm setting my expectation bar at a low level. Everytime I see a television ad for it my thoughts alternate between how old Indy looks and how ridiculous Shia appears sporting some facial hair. I'll still probably attempt a midnight showing for the film, while sporting my NY Mets hat to look like a grown up Short Round (a would-be Halloween costume that never came together).
SirenTiger
post #9  on May 9, 2008 - 3:27 PM PDT  
> On May 9, 2008 - 2:40 PM PDT troublemaker wrote:
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> Everytime I see a television ad for it my thoughts alternate between how old Indy looks ...
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When does this Indiana Jones movie take place? I have a hard time imagining Indiana Jones in the fifties. At least not without severe cynacism.

I must confess Speed Racer makes me nostalgic and am a bit curious to see Christina Ricci as Trixie.
doozer
post #10  on May 9, 2008 - 6:02 PM PDT  
> On May 9, 2008 - 9:01 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
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> What do all the Day Watch/Night Watch fans think of Wanted, by the way? (warning, noisy flash heavy official site). IMDB entry is here.
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I didn't watch the trailer but I looked at the IMDB page. I'll watch the trailer when I get home. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I LOVE Night Watch and Day Watch (OH YES YES I just saw that Twilight/Dusk Watch is in production. Now I think I might not like Wanted if it interfered with me not getting Twilight/Dusk Watch sooner.

Honestly it could be good. I'll miss the creative subtitles though.
hamano
post #11  on May 9, 2008 - 8:02 PM PDT  
I haven't seen Day/Night Watch but WANTED does look like fun. I guess the Warchowski Brothers have passed the torch to this Russian guy, eh?

Christina Ricci is way too curvy to be Trixi.
SirenTiger
post #12  on May 9, 2008 - 8:23 PM PDT  
> On May 9, 2008 - 8:02 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> Christina Ricci is way too curvy to be Trixi.
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That's part of the reason why I'm curious.

ScottWeinberg
post #13  on May 10, 2008 - 4:36 AM PDT  
> On May 9, 2008 - 4:50 AM PDT hamano wrote:
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> I guess Speed Racer kicks off the summer blockbuster season.

Noooo, Iron Man did that last week. Speed Racer is the first piece of roadkill. :)
Cinenaut
post #14  on May 10, 2008 - 12:23 PM PDT  
Iron Man is really quite an enjoyable summer popcorn movie. Let's hope some of these other movies work as well.
Battie
post #15  on May 10, 2008 - 9:35 PM PDT  
> On May 9, 2008 - 8:49 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
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> I'm also looking forward to the Batman movie. I saw a sequence from it at an IMAX theater before a screening of I Am Legend and it seemed quite good.
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Yeah, I saw the trailer in theaters, too. (I should watch the first one, perhaps?) It looked very good. I was planning on seeing it for the nutso Joker (before I knew it was Heath Ledger and before he died).

Wanted I really want to see. I rather like McAvoy. However, if McAvoy is the star, why is Jolie on the movie poster and most of the pictures? Oh, right. She has boobs. I used to really dig Jolie until I saw her super-skinny in an interview or photo. It was creepy. So was seeing her personal life splashed all over the tabloids. Just ruins my enjoyment of movies. Why do these suburban housewife idiots insist on funding those damned magazines? *considers watching a Malkovich film to feel better*


Between GTA IV and hydrocodone, I completely ignored Iron Man. I think I'll catch it on DVD. I was completely dismissive of it until I saw a trailer. Reminded me that Downey used to be pretty cool.
IronS
post #16  on May 10, 2008 - 10:54 PM PDT  
I, for one, am not going to see "Speed Racer" in the theater. However, I am collecting the "Speed Racer" cars at McDonalds (I'm not spending money on the "Iron Man" toys at Burger King though).
doozer
post #17  on May 11, 2008 - 1:52 AM PDT  
> On May 10, 2008 - 9:35 PM PDT Battie wrote:
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> Between GTA IV and hydrocodone, I completely ignored Iron Man.
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What a coincidence. The latter is part of why I missed Iron Man also. I watched Disco Pigs and The Velocity of Gary though instead of playing GTA while my roommates went to see Iron Man.
Hags888
post #18  on May 11, 2008 - 3:35 PM PDT  
I'm going to see Iron Man tonight! Woot! I'm very excited about it. Seems like it will have great effects, and good acting. Reviews on Rotten Tomatoes have been overwhelmingly good.

As for the other summer blockbusters, Dark Knight and Hulk are the next two on my list that I'm excited about. I'm a HUGE fan of Ed Norton and Liv Tyler, so I'm super-psyched to see them both in the same movie. I was a big fan of the Lou Ferrigno TV show, and rumors have pegged the movie to draw from the TV show, which is a good thing.

Hancock looks like another "MIB" and/or "Independence Day" kind of Will Smith fare. I'm indifferent about it, but may go if friends want to tag along. I feel the same way about Indiana Jones 4...I'm kind of thinking "yawn" about that one.

I might go see Narnia if the wife wants to go, and I have always liked Steve Carrell, so Get Smart will likely make it's way to the Greencine queue. I don't know enough about "Wanted" to make a decision. But, I'm not interested in seeing Speed Racer, I know that for a fact.
troublemaker
post #19  on May 14, 2008 - 7:45 PM PDT  
> On May 11, 2008 - 3:35 PM PDT Hags888 wrote:
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> I'm going to see Iron Man tonight! Woot! I'm very excited about it. Seems like it will have great effects, and good acting. Reviews on Rotten Tomatoes have been overwhelmingly good.
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> As for the other summer blockbusters, Dark Knight and Hulk are the next two on my list that I'm excited about. I'm a HUGE fan of Ed Norton and Liv Tyler, so I'm super-psyched to see them both in the same movie. I was a big fan of the Lou Ferrigno TV show, and rumors have pegged the movie to draw from the TV show, which is a good thing.
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> Hancock looks like another "MIB" and/or "Independence Day" kind of Will Smith fare. I'm indifferent about it, but may go if friends want to tag along. I feel the same way about Indiana Jones 4...I'm kind of thinking "yawn" about that one.
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> I might go see Narnia if the wife wants to go, and I have always liked Steve Carrell, so Get Smart will likely make it's way to the Greencine queue. I don't know enough about "Wanted" to make a decision. But, I'm not interested in seeing Speed Racer, I know that for a fact.
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Haggs, knowing what kind of music nut you are, you got to tell me what you thought of the Tom Morello guitar over the Hans Zimmer score.
underdog
post #20  on May 16, 2008 - 11:07 AM PDT  
Well, here's your chance to tell us which film you're most looking forward to:

Big Summer Movie You're Most Looking Forward To: POLL. Vote now!

And if we missed your favorite, post it in the comments there. Or here. Or both.

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