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Observe and Report observations?
Topic by: underdog
Posted: April 13, 2009 - 4:28 PM PDT
Last Reply: April 29, 2009 - 12:05 PM PDT

author topic: Observe and Report observations?
post #1  on April 13, 2009 - 4:28 PM PDT  
While I'm actually not going to have a chance to see this one 'til later this week, I thought I'd point out a new piece on OBSERVE AND REPORT from Vadim Rizov just posted on GreenCine Daily, on a faux controversy that developed seemingly out of nowhere: Observing Rape.

For anyone who's seen the film, what do you think about this controversy? It all does seem a bit blown out of proportion to me, though again I haven't seen it.

Meanwhile, on the lighter side, podcasted interview with Anna Faris. Faris, it should be said, is already a comic genius in my opinion.

Sounds like a tough comedy for some audiences to deal with because it offers a not too likable protagonist and some uncomfortable dark humor.
post #2  on April 13, 2009 - 8:52 PM PDT  
Well I have a friend. A real life actual friend who I would warn not to see this movie precisely because of that scene. Barely conscience does not equal consent. Too close to my friends very real horror story.

There's "dark humor" and then there's tasteless. I've already seen enough Seth Rogen films to know what a misogynist he is, don't need to see any more.
post #3  on April 14, 2009 - 11:21 AM PDT  

though I don't know if it's fair to call Seth Rogen a misogynist, he's just an actor playing roles... but I could see a case for Jody Hill's stuff being labeled that way. (Eastbound and Down, and Foot Fist Way, too) Though I think he's more making fun of certain types of guys, who tend to be misogynist, than he is endorsing misogyny himself, which is a key distinction I think but can understand how it might get blurred.
post #4  on April 14, 2009 - 1:22 PM PDT  
Well I'm too lazy right now to look them up, but I'm pretty sure he has a hand in writing a lot of the projects he stars in. And, yes I find that movies starring Seth Rogen are consistently poor in their treatment of women. It probably doesn't help that I think his movies stink in general. Super Bad made me give him a lot of chances and each time I regretted it.
post #5  on April 15, 2009 - 11:32 AM PDT  
I wouldn't pick on Jody Hill or the controversial scene in Observe and Report because the general state of gender role portrayals in film have been reduced to stereotypes most of the time. You either get the suave lead in a romantic film or the knucklehead in comedies. I didn't find Superbad to be very funny but East Bound and Down is one of my favorite shows of the moment - for me these filmmakers can be as gross/offensive as they wanna be as long as the end result is comedic gold.
post #6  on April 15, 2009 - 5:21 PM PDT  
well we may have different definitions of "comedey gold" then, but speaking of, any one else watching TV tonight for all the glorious references to tea bagging? Stuart and Colbert, have at it!
post #7  on April 16, 2009 - 6:04 AM PDT  
Everything I know (and want to know) about teabagging, I learn from John Waters great film, "Pecker".
post #8  on April 16, 2009 - 3:41 PM PDT  
the phrase "tea bagging" was VOLCANIC on google yesterday, according to google trends! 5.6 million searches. so awesome.
post #9  on April 17, 2009 - 11:56 AM PDT  
Observed has been observed and here's my report -

Overall I thought the film was very entertaining, occasionaly hilarious, and had some interesting points regarding marculinity, violence and what happens when delusion/bravado is thrown into the mix. Kinda like Fight Club in that regard but more of a straightforward dark, DARK comedy. The highlights of the film for me were the cameos, the few genuinely touching friendships that sprout throughout the film (Roni and his Mom and his rag-tag group of buds), and the bursts of way-out-there violence, and, of course, penis jokes.

Some parts of the movie dragged. I started to get a little bored of being so immersed in the mall world after a while, and I thought the movie lacked heart.

Regarding the rape scene, I have mixed feelings, but I came into the movie already knowing there was controversy and that has rendered me unable to see the scene within the film's context. In the film's context, the scene is pretty funny and does a good job of showing the two character's shallow sides. In the end I'm glad that the word's out there that this scene exists in the film so people are forewarned.
post #10  on April 29, 2009 - 12:05 PM PDT  
> On April 16, 2009 - 6:04 AM PDT Vanamonde wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Everything I know (and want to know) about teabagging, I learn from John Waters great film, "Pecker".
> ---------------------------------

Vanamonde, figured you'd like this then ;)

Waters on the origins of teabagging

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