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VOD Column in movie listings?
Topic by: jsailor
Posted: September 12, 2003 - 11:08 AM PDT
Last Reply: November 8, 2003 - 11:52 PM PST

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author topic: VOD Column in movie listings?
hamano
post #21  on September 17, 2003 - 10:41 AM PDT  
> On September 17, 2003 - 5:49 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I'm running Mac OS X. I wonder if VLC (VideoLAN) would work. > ---------------------------------

Mac OS X Jaguar VOD report:

VLC(VideoLAN) - Nothing happened.

Windows Media Player Mac OS X version -
Media player logged on to the server and started to buffer a stream. I got some b&w static, along with some audio that sounded like wires being pulled taut to the breaking point. The signal suddenly cut off. Then I got a phone call from Redmond saying I had seven more days to live.

Conclusion: dpowers is right. GC VOD is NOT Mac compatible.
larbeck
post #22  on September 17, 2003 - 10:56 AM PDT  
Thank you, dh22, for that link to the FAQ! I have looked but did not find it.
dh22
post #23  on September 17, 2003 - 11:10 AM PDT  
> On September 17, 2003 - 10:56 AM PDT larbeck wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Thank you, dh22, for that link to the FAQ! I have looked but did not find it.
>
> ---------------------------------

If you click on the watch blue arrow, a window pops up that has a link for the FAQ.
snafu
post #24  on September 17, 2003 - 11:24 AM PDT  
It's definitly a nice thing if you don't want to wait for a particular movie and are willing to pay a little extra for it.
Gradalis
post #25  on September 17, 2003 - 11:31 AM PDT  
Similarly, for DivX:
http://www.greencine.com/static/divx/divxFaq.jsp

You pay extra. Per download.
Exactly. Unlike the conventional rental business, where we buy a disc and rent it without further expense to GC (until the USPS breaks it, of course), every VOD/DivX transaction delivers money directly to the filmmaker (or distributor, whatever the case might be). A better system for the independents, I wager.
dpowers
post #26  on September 17, 2003 - 12:00 PM PDT  
i'm right about the drive space requirements for the DivX movies, right? about a gig?
Gradalis
post #27  on September 17, 2003 - 2:09 PM PDT  
After careful examination from Angelina and Pelikan, an average file-size for a feature film would range from 600-700MB. Considerably smaller than a gig -- one of the many wonders of MPEG-4.
dpowers
post #28  on September 17, 2003 - 3:11 PM PDT  
wow, CD size, that's very squished! i thought they'd be bigger! playback's really okay at 500MHz?

you'd need more than 700MB free space on the hard drive for your computer to operate properly while playing the movie... without testing it myself i can't say but i'll stick to my 1GB-free as a bottom limit suggestion anyhow. i mean if somebody's got an older-slower machine with a smallish (< 5GB) hard drive, playing back with a full hard drive might really cut into the quality of the video...?
JHeneghan
post #29  on September 17, 2003 - 3:55 PM PDT  
What are these going to look like on my 55" monitor?
dpowers
post #30  on September 17, 2003 - 5:16 PM PDT  
you mean, will it still look pretty at 3 times the size...?
dh22
post #31  on September 17, 2003 - 7:50 PM PDT  
I tried out their demo file. I wasn't all that thrilled with it.

http://www.greencine.com/vodSample
dpowers
post #32  on September 17, 2003 - 8:14 PM PDT  
what's your computer setup? CPU speed, RAM installed, connection speed?
dh22
post #33  on September 18, 2003 - 5:13 AM PDT  
> On September 17, 2003 - 8:14 PM PDT dpowers wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> what's your computer setup? CPU speed, RAM installed, connection speed?
> ---------------------------------

It's all fine. Well beyond the minimum requirements. I've taken a look on a couple different PCs. Its not a performance issue. I just wasn't impressed by the quality of the vid.
larbeck
post #34  on September 18, 2003 - 8:29 AM PDT  
I have seen video clips from many, many sources on the Net in the last fews years. Of course, all of then legal (that's my story and I am sticking to it). But, the only video that I have ever seen to even have HALF of the quality of the average DVD are the large trailers from "The Lord of the Rings" and "Star Wars" (by the way, which I have not seen since Ep. 4).

And seriously, these are commericals. When there are many reasons that I crave boardband, quality digital video is not it. What I dream about is High Definition quality MPEG-x that surpresses DVD-video, at least 780p, but maybe even 1080p (which is beyond today's standard for HDTV but interlaced SUCKS). But it seems the market is nowhere near ready to provide this. I realize that this probably requires like a 100 mbps connection. But I want it, someday. And as long as I am dreaming, make it on a 1920x1024 48" screen!

This is my dream. Until then, I will continue to pluck down $8 buck a pop at the movie house and share the experience with my neighbors.

Oh, so THAT's way this technology is not marketed, yet!!!!
traam
post #35  on September 18, 2003 - 9:20 AM PDT  
> On September 17, 2003 - 2:09 PM PDT Gradalis wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> After careful examination from Angelina and Pelikan, an average file-size for a feature film would range from 600-700MB. Considerably smaller than a gig -- one of the many wonders of MPEG-4.
> ---------------------------------

Um so there not goign to be any good quality then. Most divx that is worht while is a minuium of 1.3 gigs for a hour and half movie. At least thats my experince after downloading over 200 divx file sin th elast 3 years and only 5 were veiwabl ein fullscreen mode. Even then they where kinda pixeled.
Cinenaut
post #36  on September 18, 2003 - 9:23 AM PDT  
Maybe best for the kind of movies they have in the Daily 5... documentaries and such?
snafu
post #37  on September 18, 2003 - 9:42 AM PDT  
I just tried that at work and it's indeed not something I would watch at full screen.

> On September 17, 2003 - 7:50 PM PDT dh22 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I tried out their demo file. I wasn't all that thrilled with it.
>
> http://www.greencine.com/vodSample
> ---------------------------------

Gradalis
post #38  on September 18, 2003 - 10:06 AM PDT  
I just wasn't impressed by the quality of the vid.
To be honest, I was skeptical at first. I was not convinced that a reasonable viewing experience could be crafted out of current technology. I was wrong. Indeed, the introduction of WM9 and DivX propelled our service to launch now rather than later.

Your comments make it clear that we need to immediately replace the source for our clip. The problems aren't with the technology. The problems are to be found in the lackluster transfer of the film that we used. Check back tomorrow and you'll see what this thing can really do.

(to paraphrase) -- They're not going to be good quality then.
It might be useful to base your comments on the actual films featured here rather than past experience.
dpowers
post #39  on September 18, 2003 - 12:06 PM PDT  
but it's true mr marlow, you have a tough crowd here, there are a lot of anime people around and thus, much DivX experience for both decoding and encoding. i've been working with it as long as you've been at GC and i'm a late adopter.

on the other hand, consumer encoding can suck many eggs. professional tools probably give better results than i can get or even than i would expect. waiting to see.
underdog
post #40  on September 18, 2003 - 12:15 PM PDT  
Yes, I will vouch for what Senor Gradalis says here. (I know I'm bias but I'm also not one to get easily blown away by the latest techno trend...) I've seen that Kirk Douglas film currently up in the sample clip on DVD and guarantee you that it looks exactly the same on DVD as it does in that clip. However, it is an older movie and an imperfect print, so it's probably best that we replace it. We shall put a different film sample up there shortly and suggest you look at it again then.

And look at your average Real Player clip, such as these on the Avengers web site -- by way of comparison.

Cheers,
Craig P
Associate Editor
GreenCine

> On September 18, 2003 - 10:06 AM PDT Gradalis wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I just wasn't impressed by the quality of the vid.
> To be honest, I was skeptical at first. I was not convinced that a reasonable viewing experience could be crafted out of current technology. I was wrong. Indeed, the introduction of WM9 and DivX propelled our service to launch now rather than later.
>
> Your comments make it clear that we need to immediately replace the source for our clip. The problems aren't with the technology. The problems are to be found in the lackluster transfer of the film that we used. Check back tomorrow and you'll see what this thing can really do.
>
> (to paraphrase) -- They're not going to be good quality then.
> It might be useful to base your comments on the actual films featured here rather than past experience.
> ---------------------------------

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